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Doctor, Treat Thyself

For the majority of my career I have hosted veterinary students as part of a preceptorship program. I can’t tell you how many students have come through my doors since the beginning. Sadly, I also don’t remember most of their names. I do remember the really good ones and I’ll also never forget those on the other end of the bell curve. One in particular, I’ll call her Dragon Girl, stands out.

There are many anecdotes that come to mind at the mention of Dragon Girl. One in particular, is worth sharing.

Dragon Girl had some medical issues that necessitated her making several visits to the doctor while she was with us. One day my partner came across Dragon Girl rummaging through our pharmacy. When asked what she was doing, she responded:

“My doctor prescribed me some prednisone. I’m just filling the Rx.”

My partner was incredulous. Her initial reaction was to admonish Dragon Girl for multiple indiscretions (using a veterinary drug for a human prescription, filling a human prescription, taking drugs without permission and, likely, taking drugs without paying for them, regardless of the reason). Then, thinking the best of the situation, she decided to explain WHY she should not do what she was doing, rather than just lambaste her. After all, she was a STUDENT, and there was a chance that she really did not know that she should not do what she was doing, and this was an excellent teaching situation.

After taking a breath, my partner calmly explained the state’s pharmacy rules and regulations and reviewed the pertinent passages of the veterinary practice act. Thinking that this would help resolve the situation without being accusatory, she paused and waited for a positive response. Instead, Dragon Girl just dug her hole even deeper.

“Like YOU never self-medicate!” Dragon Girl retorted. (Just another example of her persistent recalcitrant behavior)

This brings me to Baytril. I have a very long history with the drug. In fact, as a resident, one of my resident projects involved establishing the pharmacokinetic parameters of Baytril in primates. Back then, Baytril was not called Baytril, it was called BVP2674. In my research I learned many cool facts about the drug. One interesting fact was that it was originally intended to be used in humans. However, Baytril had one particular side effect that prevented its introduction on the human side: it causes hallucinations and severe headaches. In some cases, it causes really bad hallucinations.

So, why am I talking about Baytril? Because I was in recent conversation with a friend (yes, really – a FRIEND) about his brush with the common cold. He said that he was getting a scratchy throat so he took some Baytril – standard dose – 5 mg/kg, bid. I asked him if it helped. He said he wasn’t sure, but that he stopped taking it because he couldn’t sleep and was having really bad dreams.

Okay, back to self-medicating. So, you’re at work and your colleague, let’s call him Jim, gets a nasty scratch from an obstreperous cat. He knows that he is at risk for infection. He is extremely busy, and has appointments booked all day. Jim does not want to take time off to go to the doctor, so he takes some amoxicillin from the clinic’s pharmacy.

Do you think colleagues or practice owners would authorize staff to take something from the pharmacy rather than have a minor incident like a cat scratch go on their work-comp record? What is that line in the sand that should not be crossed?
 

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Self-medication

I have worked within the our profession for over 20 years both as a vet tech and now as a vet. I worked at one practice for most of this time. When working as a vet tech I would watch my (mentor) vet give employees anitbiotics when they would get bitten, have a cold,diarrhea, you name it. Sometimes these wounds were serious, I know because I had both my hands severely bitten when holding a cat while he was drawing blood. Even though this cat was severely biting both my hands he wouldn't stop. He gave me cephalexin a washed my wounds. The next day my hands were so swollen I couldn't even drive my car. He showed me how to write fradulent prescriptions using animals as patients for medications to have filled at pharmacies for his use. He ordered drugs from Henry Schein for his or his employees personnal use. As a vet I was bitten on my knuckle by German Shephard and needed stitches. He was not there at the moment and as I was leaving to go to the doctor he walked through the door with his son who is a human surgeon and he stopped me. He had his son stitch my finger there at the vet clinic and gave me antibiotics. He did all of this because he did not want to pay for workers comp and he wanted his employees to stay at work. There came a time, as a vet, that I needed surgery for my knee. He wanted me to wait a few months before having my surgery as we were getting into the busy season. I was in a great deal of pain and the doctors weren't helping me. I made the worst decision of my life. I wrote prescriptions for dogs in order to obtain vicodin for my own personnal use. Being a doctor I thought I knew what I was doing and I was just doing it so I could work. Long story short, I usderestimated the power of the drug and became addicted and that drug took over my life. I have been through 3 drub rehabs and served 2 years in prison. I lost my license to practice and DEA #. I can't get a job because I am a felon. Tough lesson to learn so be very careful of what you self-medicate yourself with. Drug addiction is very real and more prevelant than you think in our profession, it's just that no one talks about it. Don't let self-medication lead you down the wrong road as in my case because you can end up paying for it the rest of your life.

cat scratches

The last cat bite to one of our staff cost $250 for immediate care. The visit consisted of the nurse scrubbing the wound and the doctor prescribing cephalexin. We could have done this for < $5 in-clinic and saved a few hours too. We follow the rules with our staff....but the cost is so outrageous for simple things we treat every day it does make me wonder if we shouldn't just treat our staff in-house. As far as self-treatment, this is timely because I cut my leg on a coffee table just last night. A quick trip to the clinic and 4 sutures later and I'm all sewn up. My feeling is that I care about how the scar looks better than a random physician and have the skills to take care of it and I'm probably not going to sue myself so it's a no brainer. Pass the suture! We can legally work on all animals except for one.

Baytril

I suffer from chronic ear infections which do not respond well to anything my GP prescibes me. Recently, I have used a cotton bud soaked in Baytril (my guinea pig is on it long term) which seems to really do the trick.

re:

Wow. How i wish to become a doctor someday. But i know being a doctor is not an easy job. To become a doctor, you must first study hard to save many lives. One mistake of a doctor can put his/her patients in a danger. But of course, God is the one who can tell what happen to our future. The doctor is only the instrument used by God. I would like to share another informative articles about doctors manual. You can check it out at askdiana.net.

Thank you for the above

Thank you for the above article. Honestly, this is something I've seen done often and most of us, once in a while, just need to be reminded. I wonder how often human doctors are also reminded as I see most of my medication problems with pets are a direct result of the "doctor owner" medicating their pet with the wrong medication.

Self-medicating

I have to admit in the past I have self medicated. I have been in the field for 25yrs, first as a technician & now as a vet. I only took meds that I had previously been prescribed, and knew the dosages. I NEVER took Baytril, or Carprofen. At least I was smart enough not to do that. Usually anitbiotics for injuries, to avoid going to the Dr. I always told the vet I worked for & paid for the drugs. Which didn't always work- I remember taking cephalexin for a bite/scratch & I still had to go to the Dr. to get a 2nd gen. cephlasporin. Why did I do it? To save money. I had no insurance or crappy insurance. I couldn't afford the Dr's fee and pharmacy antiobitics, or being off work. I can't remember doing this once I was out of vet school, only as a tech. I DIDN'T do this as a vet student IF I self medicate now- it is with drugs I order directly-that is delivered to my house, so it never is from a practice. Or left over meds prescribed for me. Honestly, this is a rarity. Maybe 2x in 15 yr. Now with the $4 forumlaries nation-wide, and one of my regional grocery store pharmacies giving away anti-biotics this should be less of an issue. I also find that most of the on the job injuries are not reported. I do releif work. Often when I tell the staff to report their injuries to whoever is in charge of workman's comp reports, . But this advice often falls on deaf ears. Which should be the topic of a future blog.

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